tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4105016499387697653.post8149420322543069655..comments2023-07-23T03:00:06.461-07:00Comments on No-poo Jillipoo: Weird Product Wednesday: Deva Curl One ConditionSage Vivanthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13794393598483412824noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4105016499387697653.post-9437079002184974942014-08-30T18:41:55.778-07:002014-08-30T18:41:55.778-07:00What's maddening is the old product rated a sa...What's maddening is the old product rated a safe 1 on ewg.org and the new formula is a not-so-safe 4 based on the new ingredients which are NOT safe. Does anybody know of a great cone-free conditioner that is rated safe on EWG? Be great if you could also get it reasonably in big family-size bottles!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02744152613268408483noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4105016499387697653.post-71255633040440763812013-08-24T12:32:07.045-07:002013-08-24T12:32:07.045-07:00any suggestions for new conditioner please!any suggestions for new conditioner please!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07965608728796625616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4105016499387697653.post-14472226381503928482013-08-24T12:31:27.215-07:002013-08-24T12:31:27.215-07:00i am so absolutely disappointed with this product,...i am so absolutely disappointed with this product, and I too am glad to find out im not making up the changes in viscosity, smell, and results....bummed though cause i have no idea what other conditioner works as well as the old one condition... suggestions plz!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07965608728796625616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4105016499387697653.post-44414664538812549792010-10-11T19:51:32.376-07:002010-10-11T19:51:32.376-07:00I am so glad I found this post; I thought I was cr...I am so glad I found this post; I thought I was crazy when my newest bottle of OneCondition seems completely watery and no longer coated my hair! I have to use tons of it now, and it's way too expensive for that. And it no longer detangles adequately. I am so disappointed with the change, and now I have to go through the arduous process of finding a new conditioner.SimonGodOfHairdoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12212589438751647406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4105016499387697653.post-56253804278937153162009-04-20T17:42:00.000-07:002009-04-20T17:42:00.000-07:00on nc.com it was posted that the new formulation i...on nc.com it was posted that the new formulation is simply putting the more expensive botanicals to the bottom of the list and not changing the price. The consistency is definitely changed (assuming I'm using the new formula I bought it recently) it isn't thick it is more watery and the scent is very faint. For me personally the performance didn't change on my hair but I don't need a ton of moisture. Someone who relied on this condish. in the past for it's moisturizing qualities, could end up disappointed IMO.DELhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14871733752734795352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4105016499387697653.post-68619655626633834542009-04-18T08:03:00.000-07:002009-04-18T08:03:00.000-07:00Sandra: Okay, I see what you are saying now. But...Sandra: Okay, I see what you are saying now. But I'm still confused about why a company would purposely tout the presence of botanicals and then put out an ingredient list that places them lower on the list, indicating that they play a lesser role? (The first formulation listed aqueous extracts of the botanicals, but the new formulation lists water first and then later, the herbal extracts. From a purely marketing perspective, this doesn't make sense if a company is trying to look more "natural," right?")Sage Vivanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13794393598483412824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4105016499387697653.post-14316826125839030002009-04-18T00:05:00.000-07:002009-04-18T00:05:00.000-07:00Sage, I understand what you are trying to say.
But...Sage, I understand what you are trying to say.<br />But, you can declare water+botanical as one ingredient (an extract). You may also declare them as two. <br /><br />It's like declaring peanutbutter as a whole in a peanutbutter-cookie (mmmm) or declaring peanuts, fat, sugar, salt, etc..Sandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12426103682600132795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4105016499387697653.post-2324455559798838842009-04-17T23:43:00.000-07:002009-04-17T23:43:00.000-07:00Sandra: Yes, you are correct the ingredients are ...Sandra: Yes, you are correct the ingredients are largely the same, but in the U.S., the order of the ingredients indicates the percentage in the product. So, the original product had a higher concentration of botanicals (both products have this mix of botanicals in a water base). I hope I understood what you were saying and addressed your comment appropriatley -- if I didn't, please let me know!Sage Vivanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13794393598483412824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4105016499387697653.post-83854597784903402762009-04-17T23:20:00.000-07:002009-04-17T23:20:00.000-07:00Well, I make ingredientdeclarations on a regular b...Well, I make ingredientdeclarations on a regular basis for food products, so I am giving you something to think about ;) I might be wrong, I only know the European laws for declarating food products, not American laws for declarating beauty products, but I highly doubt they differ a lot aside from some details.<br />The first list states "Aqueos extracts of", which indicates the base is water. I might be wrong, so correct me here.<br />THAT might explain why the declaration is mixed like that. <br />Let's think; the original extracts contained 90% water, 10% botanical. Seems like a normal dillution, right? The fillers take up 30% total, the extracts 70%. <br />Declaration; Aqueos extracts 70%, fillers 30% and some extra water. <br />Now, we (or Deva does) changes it's declaration. Both declarations seems to be according to the law, but Deva has to make a point of changing their product, so they use the otherside of the law to be able to change the declaration.<br />Now, we split the extracts in water and botanicals. Take 90% of 70% making it 63% total watercontent. <br />Take 10% of 70%, making it 7% of total botanicals. <br />The 30% fillers doesn't change. Putting all the ingredients in declining order; Water 63%, fillers 30%, botanicals 7%. Without changing ANYTHING but the declaration. <br /><br />I am not saying I think it's fair to do this! But it could be possible that it is still the same product without the cone (and also without the "famous" and "mysterious" new botanical).. <br /><br />I hope I make myself clear, it's early and my english is not that awesome :DSandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12426103682600132795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4105016499387697653.post-39816857224857374992009-04-16T16:55:00.000-07:002009-04-16T16:55:00.000-07:00Wow I had no idea all of this was going on. How fi...Wow I had no idea all of this was going on. How fishy...Kcurlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01445287481523172719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4105016499387697653.post-88412778012243412682009-04-16T12:14:00.000-07:002009-04-16T12:14:00.000-07:00As for the new formula itself I do not like it. I...As for the new formula itself I do not like it. It doesn't detangle as well as the old OneC and I had to use twice as much as before which is ridiculous considering the price. Must be the water. I'd go through a bottle in a week. I'm never buying Deva again which is unfortunate because it was Deva that saved my hair last summer when I went curly before I found NC.com.Jesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13147664543492794435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4105016499387697653.post-67846099369109425162009-04-16T10:19:00.000-07:002009-04-16T10:19:00.000-07:00Azalea: no, Lorraine did not phone me. I guess sh...Azalea: no, Lorraine did not phone me. I guess she figured, what could she really say to address our concerns. Talking to us all through the relative safety of NC.com allows her to stay on message and keep things relentlessly cheerful. I wish she had made the effort, though.Sage Vivanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13794393598483412824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4105016499387697653.post-82586005461109764822009-04-16T09:50:00.000-07:002009-04-16T09:50:00.000-07:00did lorraine ever end up calling you to clear thin...did lorraine ever end up calling you to clear things up?azalea905https://www.blogger.com/profile/11828207448342807094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4105016499387697653.post-30425119800876963672009-04-16T08:37:00.000-07:002009-04-16T08:37:00.000-07:00Julie: nope.
Anybody who isn't angry about Deva...Julie: nope. <br /><br />Anybody who isn't angry about Deva's consistent deceptions and disregard for customers is either not paying attention or not capable of recognizing when they're being lied to.Sage Vivanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13794393598483412824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4105016499387697653.post-13770036561116432062009-04-16T07:59:00.000-07:002009-04-16T07:59:00.000-07:00OK, my inner "isn't there another side to this sto...OK, my inner "isn't there another side to this story" is going off. I totally agree with you on this, but don't you think maybe, possibly, you <I>might</I> be over-reacting a wee little bit?Juliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02649672975219979574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4105016499387697653.post-57119012818213255772009-04-16T04:25:00.000-07:002009-04-16T04:25:00.000-07:00Another great post, jillipoo!Another great post, jillipoo!kathymackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18201006522971166063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4105016499387697653.post-22957463205836365642009-04-16T04:04:00.000-07:002009-04-16T04:04:00.000-07:00Have they showed any signs of lowering the price n...Have they showed any signs of lowering the price now that the main ingredients is nothing special (not that water isn't special, it just isn't anything awe inspiring)?Alicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12673730452837188773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4105016499387697653.post-60733332840508411082009-04-16T02:48:00.000-07:002009-04-16T02:48:00.000-07:00I definitely won't be buying any more Deva product...I definitely won't be buying any more Deva products and may put my Angell on NC to swap out. Too bad because I love the LowPoo.Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15438021612089301102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4105016499387697653.post-74225752226950548212009-04-15T19:57:00.000-07:002009-04-15T19:57:00.000-07:00I totally agree with you, and am SO glad that I he...I totally agree with you, and am SO glad that I held off on purchasing any Deva products. Now I most certainly never will!nattyd16https://www.blogger.com/profile/15579105154876044058noreply@blogger.com